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Recently Douglas Robertson posted a query on the Bungoblog – did anyone else remember the Victorian drinking fountain on the Nithsdale Road roundabout, opposite Salisbury Quadrant?<\/p>\n

“I\u2019m sure it was Victorian, as made of metal and was substantially built. I don\u2019t know the dimensions but would estimate (from memory) that it was approx. 10-12 ft high on a circular base of slightly larger dimensions.<\/p>\n

It was situated on a roundabout opposite the old red telephone box nr. Sammy Dows and The New Anand Restaurant. I am sure it was still there about 20 years ago when I lived in Pollokshields. Did anyone see it being dismantled? Where did it finally end up? I have searched and searched (google uk) and cant find anything relating to it. I\u2019m sure there must be someone, perhaps a Glasgow Council dept., who could throw some light on this. Again, a photo of it from someone would be an ideal start.”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

A couple of residents replied, recalling the time the council came and took it away, or destroyed it when the new roundabout was constructed, probably in the mid 1970s.<\/p>\n

Then the Strathbungo Society’s chair flagged it up to @OssianLore<\/a> on Twitter <\/span>, and the following is a summary of what he discovered.<\/p>\n

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The drinking fountain, with lamp standard, was present on an OS Map of 1893, in the middle of the junction of Nithsdale Road, Street (then Titwood Place) and Drive.<\/p>\n

\"Drinking<\/a><\/p>\n

It was still there in 1951, on a traffic island.<\/p>\n

\"OS<\/a>
\n(D Fn = drinking fountain, TCB = telephone call box, PCB = Police call box)<\/p>\n

This is the only known photograph of the fountain, so far. The aerial photo is dated 1958-67. Strathbungo station is already closed, so it must be post 1962.<\/p>\n

\"Aerial<\/a><\/p>\n

\"Fountain\"<\/a><\/p>\n

\"Fountain<\/a><\/p>\n

Many were standard designs, and it may have looked something like this, MacFarlane’s pattern 31 from the Saracen foundry.
\n\"\"<\/a><\/p>\n

A similar design can be seen in Dowanhill Park, and there is an entire blog devoted to the subject if you wish to learn more <\/span>.<\/p>\n

The fountain’s location can be determined by overlaying maps <\/p>\n

\"Maps<\/a><\/p>\n

On street view it looks like this. It appears the circle of stones at the base were re used in the creation of the roundabout.<\/p>\n

\"Streetview<\/a><\/p>\n

(Images reproduced with permission of @OssianLore)<\/p>\n

There are a couple of photos of the area in the Virtual Mitchell, but the fountain, if still present, is tantalisingly just out of shot. <\/p>\n

\"Nithsdale<\/a>

Nithsdale Road May 1974<\/p><\/div>\n

The Thomson Memorial<\/h2>\n

What happened next to the fountain is unclear. In 1975 the Strathbungo Society proposed a competition to design a memorial to mark the centenary of Alexander “Greek” Thomson’s death, with a prize of \u00a3100. The competition makes no reference to the drinking fountain, and the only known entry to the competition shows it laid out on the original traffic island. The competition rules did state however, that <\/p>\n

“For traffic control reasons, there are likely to be some minor changes to the shape of the traffic island, but it is intended that the memorial should be situated at the centre of the present island, not upon the foundations presently visible.”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The winner of the competition is not recorded, but planning permission was granted by December 1975. In the summer of 1976 the cost was estimated at \u00a34,000-\u00a35,000 and the project was mothballed due to a lack of funds. It isn’t clear at what time the island was reconfigured to create the roundabout, nor when the fountain disappeared. It is never mentioned in the Strathbungo Society’s records.<\/p>\n

This is the entry proposed by Frederick Selby, an architect on the staff at Glasgow School of Art, who lived at 48 Queen Square. There is a fascinating biography of him on the GSA website <\/span>, along with their own full set of copies of his entry <\/span>.<\/p>\n

\"Thomson<\/a>
\n\"Thomson<\/a><\/p>\n

The final piece of the jigsaw<\/h2>\n

Following publication of this article, a former Strathbungo resident Phil McCafferty, added his own recollection of the fountain (see comments), and then later, eagle-eyed Phil spotted a photograph in a new publicaton, Glasgow Trolleybuses <\/span>. Look closely as the bus passes Salisbury Quadrant, and there on the left is the Strathbungo fountain, much as Phil described it. Note also on the right the Police Call Box. And before anyone suggests it’s Doctor Who visiting in his TARDIS, all Glasgow Call Boxes were painted red.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a>

Trolleybus TBS12 on route 108 passes the Strathbungo Fountain on 8th August 1963. Image: Charles Billette, reproduced with permission.<\/p><\/div>\n

\"\"<\/a>

The drinking fountain, enlarged<\/p><\/div>\n

What next?<\/h2>\n

There have since been a variety of suggestions for a monument on the roundabout, but so far to no avail. What would you suggest? It will be Thomson’s 150th anniversary in 2025. Just saying.<\/p>\n

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